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**Limitations.** [[MetaDAOs futarchy implementation shows limited trading volume in uncontested decisions]] -- when proposals are clearly good or clearly bad, few traders participate because the expected profit from trading in a consensus market is near zero. This is a structural feature, not a bug: contested decisions get more participation precisely because they're uncertain, which is when you most need information aggregation. But it does mean uncontested proposals can pass or fail with very thin markets, making the TWAP potentially noisy. **Limitations.** [[MetaDAOs futarchy implementation shows limited trading volume in uncontested decisions]] -- when proposals are clearly good or clearly bad, few traders participate because the expected profit from trading in a consensus market is near zero. This is a structural feature, not a bug: contested decisions get more participation precisely because they're uncertain, which is when you most need information aggregation. But it does mean uncontested proposals can pass or fail with very thin markets, making the TWAP potentially noisy.
### Additional Evidence (extend)
*Source: [[2024-06-22-futardio-proposal-thailanddao-event-promotion-to-boost-deans-list-dao-engageme]] | Added: 2026-03-12 | Extractor: anthropic/claude-sonnet-4.5*
Production deployment data from Dean's List DAO (2024-06-22 to 2024-06-25): Autocrat v0.3 used for governance proposal with 3-day TWAP settlement window, 3% threshold requirement. Proposal account: DgXa6gy7nAFFWe8VDkiReQYhqe1JSYQCJWUBV8Mm6aM. DAO account: 9TKh2yav4WpSNkFV2cLybrWZETBWZBkQ6WB6qV9Nt9dJ. Proposal completed 2024-06-25. This provides concrete implementation parameters for the three-day TWAP window in production use on small DAOs.
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Optimism's futarchy experiment achieved 5,898 total trades from 430 active forecasters (average 13.6 transactions per person) over 21 days, with 88.6% being first-time Optimism governance participants. This suggests futarchy CAN attract substantial engagement when implemented at scale with proper incentives, contradicting the limited-volume pattern observed in MetaDAO. Key differences: Optimism used play money (lower barrier to entry), had institutional backing (Uniswap Foundation co-sponsor), and involved grant selection (clearer stakes) rather than protocol governance decisions. The participation breadth (10 countries, 4 continents, 36 new users/day) suggests the limited-volume finding may be specific to MetaDAO's implementation or use case rather than a structural futarchy limitation. Optimism's futarchy experiment achieved 5,898 total trades from 430 active forecasters (average 13.6 transactions per person) over 21 days, with 88.6% being first-time Optimism governance participants. This suggests futarchy CAN attract substantial engagement when implemented at scale with proper incentives, contradicting the limited-volume pattern observed in MetaDAO. Key differences: Optimism used play money (lower barrier to entry), had institutional backing (Uniswap Foundation co-sponsor), and involved grant selection (clearer stakes) rather than protocol governance decisions. The participation breadth (10 countries, 4 continents, 36 new users/day) suggests the limited-volume finding may be specific to MetaDAO's implementation or use case rather than a structural futarchy limitation.
### Additional Evidence (confirm)
*Source: [[2024-06-22-futardio-proposal-thailanddao-event-promotion-to-boost-deans-list-dao-engageme]] | Added: 2026-03-12 | Extractor: anthropic/claude-sonnet-4.5*
Dean's List DAO ThailandDAO proposal (Futardio, Autocrat v0.3, 2024-06-22 to 2024-06-25) failed despite requiring only 3% TWAP increase ($3,698 absolute on $123,263 FDV) over 3 days. The low threshold suggests the proposal should have been achievable if trading volume existed, but failure indicates insufficient liquidity even for minimal passage requirements. This confirms the limited trading volume hypothesis: even uncontested or low-threshold decisions fail to attract sufficient trading activity on small DAOs.
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---
type: claim
domain: internet-finance
description: "DAO event perks tied to governance power create adverse selection where travel benefits incentivize token accumulation over productive contribution, attracting extractive participants"
confidence: speculative
source: "Futardio proposal DgXa6gy7nAFFWe8VDkiReQYhqe1JSYQCJWUBV8Mm6aM, Dean's List DAO, 2024-06-22"
created: 2024-06-22
tags: [dao-incentives, adverse-selection, governance-design, token-mechanics]
---
# DAO event perks as governance incentives face adverse selection where travel benefits attract extractive participants over aligned contributors
The Dean's List DAO ThailandDAO proposal structure reveals a potential adverse selection problem in using high-value perks (international travel, accommodation, exclusive events) as governance participation incentives. The mechanism creates misaligned incentives between capital accumulation and productive contribution.
## Incentive Structure
The proposal offered:
- **Top 5 governance power holders**: Airplane fares + 12 days accommodation at ThailandDAO ($10K budget)
- **Top 50 governance power holders**: IRL event invitations, partner airdrops, ongoing perks ($5K budget)
- **Leaderboard mechanics**: Members lock $DEAN tokens (with time-based multipliers) to increase governance power and climb rankings
- **Campaign duration**: Sept 25 - Oct 25, 2024 (~1 month)
- **Token incentive**: 10% discount on $DEAN token payments for 3 months
## Adverse Selection Mechanism
This creates an incentive structure where:
1. **Capital accumulation dominates contribution quality**: Governance power is determined by token holdings and lock duration, not by quality of governance participation, proposal evaluation, or ecosystem contribution. A participant with $10K to deploy can acquire tokens, lock them for the campaign period, and qualify for travel perks regardless of governance skill.
2. **Extractive participation is rational**: A participant can acquire tokens, lock them for the campaign period to qualify for travel perks, then unlock and exit after receiving benefits. The mechanism provides no penalty for short-term participation or requirement for sustained engagement.
3. **Misaligned time horizons**: The campaign duration (1 month) and 3-month token payment discount window create short-term optimization incentives. A participant's optimal strategy is to lock tokens for exactly the duration needed to qualify for perks, then exit—not to build long-term governance capacity.
4. **Whale concentration risk**: High-value perks (international travel) naturally favor large token holders who can afford to lock capital, potentially excluding active but capital-constrained contributors. A contributor with $1K in tokens cannot compete with a whale holding $100K, regardless of governance quality.
5. **Supply reduction without value creation**: The proposal's own economic logic reinforces this concern: it projects token price appreciation through supply reduction (members locking tokens), not through increased productive activity or ecosystem value creation. The mechanism rewards token accumulation and locking behavior, which may be orthogonal or even opposed to governance quality.
## Contrast with Contribution-Based Systems
This contrasts with contribution-based reward systems (like Numerai's performance staking or expert staking in Living Capital) where rewards flow to demonstrated skill or value creation. In those systems:
- Rewards are proportional to prediction accuracy or performance metrics
- Participants cannot extract value without sustained quality contribution
- Short-term extractive participation is penalized
## Evidence from Proposal Failure
The proposal failed (2024-06-25), which could indicate market participants recognized this adverse selection risk. However, this is speculative—the failure could also reflect other factors (complexity, liquidity, general sentiment against event spending).
## Challenges
Alternative interpretations:
- The proposal may have failed for reasons unrelated to incentive design (complexity, liquidity, credibility)
- Token locking with time multipliers could select for long-term aligned participants if lock periods extend beyond perk distribution
- The leaderboard could create positive competition and engagement even if some participants are extractive
- MonkeDAO and SuperTeam (cited as inspiration) may have successfully used similar event-based incentives, suggesting the mechanism can work in practice
- The adverse selection problem may be mitigated by community reputation effects or future governance participation requirements
Single-case evidence is insufficient to establish this as a general pattern. Replication across multiple DAOs with similar incentive structures would strengthen the claim.
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Relevant Notes:
- [[expert staking in Living Capital uses Numerai-style bounded burns for performance and escalating dispute bonds for fraud creating accountability without deterring participation.md]]
- [[token voting DAOs offer no minority protection beyond majority goodwill.md]]
- [[optimal governance requires mixing mechanisms because different decisions have different manipulation risk profiles.md]]
Topics:
- [[domains/internet-finance/_map]]
- [[core/mechanisms/_map]]

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Optimism futarchy achieved 430 active forecasters and 88.6% first-time governance participants by using play money, demonstrating that removing capital requirements can dramatically lower participation barriers. However, this came at the cost of prediction accuracy (8x overshoot on magnitude estimates), revealing a new friction: the play-money vs real-money tradeoff. Play money enables permissionless participation but sacrifices calibration; real money provides calibration but creates regulatory and capital barriers. This suggests futarchy adoption faces a structural dilemma between accessibility and accuracy that liquidity requirements alone don't capture. The tradeoff is not merely about quantity of liquidity but the fundamental difference between incentive structures that attract participants vs incentive structures that produce accurate predictions. Optimism futarchy achieved 430 active forecasters and 88.6% first-time governance participants by using play money, demonstrating that removing capital requirements can dramatically lower participation barriers. However, this came at the cost of prediction accuracy (8x overshoot on magnitude estimates), revealing a new friction: the play-money vs real-money tradeoff. Play money enables permissionless participation but sacrifices calibration; real money provides calibration but creates regulatory and capital barriers. This suggests futarchy adoption faces a structural dilemma between accessibility and accuracy that liquidity requirements alone don't capture. The tradeoff is not merely about quantity of liquidity but the fundamental difference between incentive structures that attract participants vs incentive structures that produce accurate predictions.
### Additional Evidence (confirm)
*Source: [[2024-06-22-futardio-proposal-thailanddao-event-promotion-to-boost-deans-list-dao-engageme]] | Added: 2026-03-12 | Extractor: anthropic/claude-sonnet-4.5*
Dean's List DAO ThailandDAO proposal demonstrates all three friction sources simultaneously: (1) Token price psychology—required 3% TWAP increase on $123K FDV token with minimal liquidity, requiring participants to believe in 16x FDV appreciation; (2) Proposal complexity—combined event logistics, token economics, governance power mechanics, and FDV projections requiring significant evaluation effort; (3) Liquidity requirements—3-day trading window insufficient for participants to evaluate complex proposal and take positions. Proposal failed despite projecting >16x FDV increase from $123K to >$2M, suggesting friction exceeded participant willingness to engage even with favorable expected value.
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type: claim
domain: internet-finance
description: "Futarchy proposals with asymmetric risk/reward profiles can fail when trading friction and complexity barriers exceed participant willingness to engage, even when economic logic suggests passage"
confidence: experimental
source: "Futardio proposal DgXa6gy7nAFFWe8VDkiReQYhqe1JSYQCJWUBV8Mm6aM, Dean's List DAO, 2024-06-22"
created: 2024-06-22
tags: [futarchy, metadao, mechanism-failure, trading-friction, proposal-complexity]
depends_on: ["MetaDAOs futarchy implementation shows limited trading volume in uncontested decisions.md", "futarchy adoption faces friction from token price psychology proposal complexity and liquidity requirements.md", "MetaDAOs Autocrat program implements futarchy through conditional token markets where proposals create parallel pass and fail universes settled by time-weighted average price over a three-day window.md"]
---
# Futarchy proposals with positive expected value can fail when trading friction exceeds participant willingness to engage
The Dean's List DAO ThailandDAO event promotion proposal demonstrates a failure mode where futarchy markets reject proposals despite apparently favorable economics and low passage thresholds. The proposal required only a 3% TWAP increase ($3,698 absolute on $123,263 FDV) over 3 days to pass, while projecting a >16x token price increase through supply reduction mechanics (members locking tokens to climb governance leaderboard for travel perks). The proposal allocated $15K in event costs against an expected FDV increase to >$2M.
Despite this asymmetric risk/reward profile on paper, the proposal failed on 2024-06-25 after the 3-day trading window. This suggests several possible mechanisms:
1. **Complexity barrier**: The proposal combined event logistics, token economics, governance power mechanics, and FDV projections in a way that required significant cognitive effort to evaluate. Participants needed to understand: (a) how token locking creates governance power multipliers, (b) how supply reduction pressures price, (c) how 3% TWAP threshold translates to required trading volume, and (d) whether projected 16x FDV increase was credible or promotional rhetoric.
2. **Liquidity insufficiency**: Even a small 3% TWAP threshold may be difficult to achieve when base trading volume is minimal. The Dean's List DAO token had only $123K FDV, suggesting extremely thin order books. A 3% move requires $3,698 in net buying pressure—achievable in theory but difficult when market depth is unknown.
3. **Credibility discount**: Market participants may have heavily discounted the projected 16x FDV increase as promotional rhetoric rather than realistic expectation. The proposal's own economic logic (supply reduction + demand increase = price appreciation) is sound in theory but requires sustained participant behavior that may not materialize.
4. **Participation cost**: The 3-day trading window may have been insufficient for participants to evaluate the complex proposal, acquire tokens, and take positions. This is particularly acute for small DAOs where participants may not have existing token holdings.
5. **Threshold miscalibration**: The 3% TWAP requirement may have been set without accounting for the DAO's actual trading volume baseline. If typical daily volume is <$1K, a 3% move becomes structurally difficult regardless of proposal quality.
This case provides concrete evidence for the friction hypothesis documented in [[futarchy adoption faces friction from token price psychology proposal complexity and liquidity requirements.md]]—even when the proposal's own economic logic suggests it should pass, the mechanism itself creates barriers to adoption.
The failure is particularly notable because it occurred on Futardio, MetaDAO's production futarchy platform using Autocrat v0.3, not in a theoretical or experimental context. The technical infrastructure was mature and the mechanism functioned as designed. The failure was not technical but behavioral/economic.
## Evidence
- Dean's List DAO FDV: $123,263 (2024-06-22)
- Required TWAP increase: 3% ($3,698 absolute)
- Projected FDV increase: >$2,000,000 (>16x from baseline)
- Proposal budget: $15,000 ($10K travel for top 5 governance holders, $5K events for top 50)
- Trading period: 3 days (2024-06-22 to 2024-06-25)
- Outcome: Failed
- Platform: Futardio (Autocrat v0.3)
- Proposal account: DgXa6gy7nAFFWe8VDkiReQYhqe1JSYQCJWUBV8Mm6aM
- DAO account: 9TKh2yav4WpSNkFV2cLybrWZETBWZBkQ6WB6qV9Nt9dJ
## Challenges
Alternative explanations:
- The market correctly priced the proposal as value-destroying despite promotional claims about token appreciation
- Participants understood the token locking mechanics would create illiquidity that offset FDV gains
- The 3% threshold was actually too high given the DAO's trading volume baseline
- The proposal failed for reasons unrelated to futarchy mechanism (e.g., community sentiment against event spending)
Single-case evidence limits generalizability—this could be Dean's List DAO-specific rather than a general futarchy property. Replication across multiple small DAOs would strengthen the claim.
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Relevant Notes:
- [[futarchy adoption faces friction from token price psychology proposal complexity and liquidity requirements.md]]
- [[MetaDAOs futarchy implementation shows limited trading volume in uncontested decisions.md]]
- [[MetaDAOs Autocrat program implements futarchy through conditional token markets where proposals create parallel pass and fail universes settled by time-weighted average price over a three-day window.md]]
- [[futarchy implementations must simplify theoretical mechanisms for production adoption because original designs include impractical elements that academics tolerate but users reject.md]]
Topics:
- [[domains/internet-finance/_map]]
- [[core/mechanisms/_map]]

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type: entity
entity_type: decision_market
name: "Dean's List: ThailandDAO Event Promotion to Boost Governance Engagement"
domain: internet-finance
status: failed
parent_entity: "[[deans-list]]"
platform: "futardio"
proposer: "HfFi634cyurmVVDr9frwu4MjGLJzz9XbAJz981HdVaNz"
proposal_url: "https://www.futard.io/proposal/DgXa6gy7nAFFWe8VDkiReQYhqe1JSYQCJWUBV8Mm6aM"
proposal_date: 2024-06-22
resolution_date: 2024-06-25
category: "strategy"
summary: "Proposal to boost Dean's List DAO governance participation by offering travel perks to top governance power holders for ThailandDAO event"
key_metrics:
required_twap_increase: "3%"
absolute_threshold: "$3,698"
budget: "$15,000"
projected_fdv_increase: ">$2,000,000"
current_fdv: "$123,263"
trading_period: "3 days"
tracked_by: rio
created: 2026-03-11
---
# Dean's List: ThailandDAO Event Promotion to Boost Governance Engagement
## Summary
Proposal to increase governance power engagement within Dean's List DAO by offering exclusive perks for ThailandDAO event (Sept 25 - Oct 25, 2024 in Koh Samui). Top 5 governance power holders would receive airplane fares and accommodation ($10K budget), top 50 would receive IRL event invitations and partner airdrops ($5K budget). Members could lock $DEAN tokens with time multipliers to climb leaderboard. Contributors could opt to receive payments in $DEAN at 10% discount for 3 months.
## Market Data
- **Outcome:** Failed
- **Proposer:** HfFi634cyurmVVDr9frwu4MjGLJzz9XbAJz981HdVaNz
- **Platform:** Futardio (Autocrat v0.3)
- **Proposal Account:** DgXa6gy7nAFFWe8VDkiReQYhqe1JSYQCJWUBV8Mm6aM
- **DAO Account:** 9TKh2yav4WpSNkFV2cLybrWZETBWZBkQ6WB6qV9Nt9dJ
- **Required TWAP Increase:** 3% ($3,698 absolute on $123,263 FDV)
- **Trading Period:** 3 days (2024-06-22 to 2024-06-25)
- **Budget:** $15,000 total ($10K travel, $5K events)
- **Projected Impact:** FDV increase from $123,263 to >$2,000,000 (>16x)
## Significance
This proposal is significant as a failure case study for futarchy adoption. Despite apparently favorable economics (3% threshold vs projected 16x FDV increase), the proposal failed to pass, suggesting:
1. **Complexity barrier:** The proposal combined event logistics, token economics, governance mechanics, and FDV projections in a way that may have exceeded participant evaluation capacity
2. **Liquidity constraints:** Even low-threshold proposals may fail when base trading volume is insufficient
3. **Credibility discount:** Market participants may have heavily discounted promotional projections
4. **Adverse selection concerns:** Using high-value perks (international travel) as governance incentives may select for token accumulation over productive contribution
The failure occurred on production Futardio infrastructure (Autocrat v0.3), not in experimental or test conditions, making it a meaningful data point about futarchy adoption barriers in practice.
## Relationship to KB
- [[deans-list]] — parent entity, governance decision
- [[futarchy adoption faces friction from token price psychology proposal complexity and liquidity requirements]] — confirms friction hypothesis
- [[MetaDAOs futarchy implementation shows limited trading volume in uncontested decisions]] — provides failure case evidence
- [[MetaDAOs Autocrat program implements futarchy through conditional token markets where proposals create parallel pass and fail universes settled by time-weighted average price over a three-day window]] — implementation details

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## Timeline ## Timeline
- **2024-12-19** — [[deans-list-implement-3-week-vesting]] passed: 3-week linear vesting for DAO payments to reduce sell pressure from 80% immediate liquidation to 33% weekly rate, projected 15%-25% valuation increase - **2024-12-19** — [[deans-list-implement-3-week-vesting]] passed: 3-week linear vesting for DAO payments to reduce sell pressure from 80% immediate liquidation to 33% weekly rate, projected 15%-25% valuation increase
- **2024-06-22** — [[deans-list-thailanddao-event-promotion]] failed: Proposal to boost governance engagement through ThailandDAO event perks (travel for top 5, events for top 50) requiring 3% TWAP increase on $123K FDV, failed despite projecting >16x FDV growth

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date: 2024-06-22 date: 2024-06-22
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tags: [futardio, metadao, futarchy, solana, governance] tags: [futardio, metadao, futarchy, solana, governance]
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## Proposal Details ## Proposal Details
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- Proposal completed: 2024-06-25 - Proposal completed: 2024-06-25
- Required TWAP increase: 3% ($3,698 absolute) - Required TWAP increase: 3% ($3,698 absolute)
- Trading period: 3 days - Trading period: 3 days
## Key Facts
- Dean's List DAO FDV was $123,263 on 2024-06-22
- ThailandDAO event scheduled for Sept 25 - Oct 25, 2024 in Koh Samui
- Proposal used Autocrat v0.3 on Futardio platform
- Proposal account: DgXa6gy7nAFFWe8VDkiReQYhqe1JSYQCJWUBV8Mm6aM
- DAO account: 9TKh2yav4WpSNkFV2cLybrWZETBWZBkQ6WB6qV9Nt9dJ