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- Domain: internet-finance
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---
type: entity
entity_type: person
name: "c2yptic"
domain: internet-finance
status: active
affiliations:
- "Saber"
tracked_by: rio
created: 2026-03-11
---
# c2yptic
c2yptic is a contributor to Saber who initiated the partnership with MetaDAO to build a vote market for veSBR holders instead of Saber developing an internal solution.
## Timeline
- **2023-12-16** - Proposed MetaDAO build Saber's vote market, leading to approved proposal with $150K ecosystem funding
## Relationship to KB
- [[saber]] - affiliated protocol
- [[metadao-develop-saber-vote-market]] - initiated partnership

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proposal_date: 2023-12-16
resolution_date: 2023-12-22
category: "mechanism"
summary: "Proposal to build a vote market for Saber veSBR holders funded by $150K from ecosystem partners"
key_metrics:
budget: "$62,000"
funding_committed: "$150,000"
metadao_ownership: "65%"
projected_take_rate: "5-15%"
team_size: 6
summary: "Proposal to build a Saber vote market platform funded by $150k consortium, with MetaDAO owning majority stake and earning 5-15% take rate on vote trading volume"
tracked_by: rio
created: 2026-03-11
---
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# MetaDAO: Develop a Saber Vote Market?
## Summary
Proposal to build a vote market platform for Saber's veSBR token holders, enabling them to earn yield by selling their governance votes while allowing projects to purchase liquidity more efficiently. The platform would be funded with $150K from ecosystem partners (UXD, BlazeStake, LP Finance, Saber) with MetaDAO owning 65% of the platform.
Proposal to build a vote market platform for Saber's veSBR governance token, funded by $150,000 from ecosystem partners (UXD, BlazeStake, LP Finance, Saber). The platform would enable veSBR holders to earn yield by selling their votes, while projects could efficiently purchase liquidity incentives. MetaDAO would retain majority ownership and earn 5-15% take rate on trading volume. Development timeline: 10 weeks with 6 named contributors and structured milestones.
## Market Data
- **Outcome:** Passed
- **Proposer:** Proph3t (metaproph3t)
- **Proposal Number:** 2
- **Proposal Account:** GPT8dFcpHfssMuULYKT9qERPY3heMoxwZHxgKgPw3TYM
- **Completed:** 2023-12-22
- **Budget:** $62,000 development cost from $150,000 total funding
- **Timeline:** 10 weeks (Dec 18, 2023 - Feb 19, 2024)
## Financial Model
- Estimated $1 in yearly vote trade volume per $50 of Saber TVL
- Saber TVL at proposal: $20M
- Projected take rate: 5-15% (starting at 15%)
- Comparable platforms: Convex (7-10%), Votium (~3%), Hidden Hand (~10%)
- MetaDAO ownership: 65% after 10% liquidity mining distribution
## Team and Budget Breakdown
- Matt/fzzyyti: $24,000 (smart contracts)
- Marie (swagy_marie): $12,000 (UI/UX)
- Durden: $7,000 (platform design)
- Proph3t: $7,000 (program management)
- r0bre: $5,000 (audit)
- Joe (joebuild): $5,000 (audit)
- Deployment/misc: $2,000
## Significance
This proposal represents MetaDAO's pivot from the original Marinade vote market (Proposal 0) to Saber after Marinade developed an internal solution. It demonstrates MetaDAO's strategy of building governance infrastructure for DeFi protocols while generating revenue through take rates on vote trading volume. The proposal includes detailed financial modeling based on Curve/Convex/Aura comparables and emphasizes legitimacy-building through partnerships with established Solana projects.
This proposal demonstrates MetaDAO's pivot from pure launchpad to infrastructure provider for governance mechanisms. The consortium funding model ($150k external capital with MetaDAO retaining majority ownership) shows futarchy enabling multi-stakeholder coordination. Financial projections used Curve and Aura as benchmarks, estimating $1 in yearly vote volume per $50 of protocol TVL, with Saber's $20M TVL implying $400k annual volume and $20-60k annual revenue at 5-15% take rates.
The detailed execution plan (10-week timeline, $62k direct costs, 6 contributors with defined roles and rates, dual audit process) reveals the operational complexity of shipping futarchy-governed products. This contrasts with the theoretical simplicity of conditional markets as a governance primitive.
## Development Team
- Marie (swagy_marie) - UI/UX ($12k)
- Matt (fzzyyti) - Smart contracts ($24k)
- Durden (durdenwannabe) - Platform design & tokenomics ($7k)
- Proph3t (metaproph3t) - Program management ($7k)
- Joe (joebuild) - Audit ($5k)
- r0bre - Audit ($5k)
## Relationship to KB
- [[metadao]] - governance decision to build vote market infrastructure
- [[futardio]] - platform where this proposal was decided
- Relates to MetaDAO's broader strategy of building futarchy infrastructure for DeFi governance
- [[metadao]] - parent organization, governance decision
- [[MetaDAOs Autocrat program implements futarchy through conditional token markets where proposals create parallel pass and fail universes settled by time-weighted average price over a three-day window]] - mechanism being used
- [[futarchy-adoption-faces-friction-from-token-price-psychology-proposal-complexity-and-liquidity-requirements]] - demonstrates operational complexity

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- **2026-03** — Pine Analytics Q4 2025 quarterly report published
- **2024-02-18** — [[metadao-otc-trade-pantera-capital]] failed: Pantera Capital's $50,000 OTC purchase proposal rejected by futarchy markets
- **2023-12-16** - [[metadao-develop-saber-vote-market]] passed: Approved development of Saber vote market platform with $150K funding from ecosystem partners (UXD, BlazeStake, LP Finance, Saber), $62K development budget, targeting 5-15% take rate on vote trading volume
- **2023-12-16** — [[metadao-develop-saber-vote-market]] proposed: Build Saber vote market platform funded by $150k consortium (UXD, BlazeStake, LP Finance, Saber) with MetaDAO retaining majority ownership
- **2023-12-22** — [[metadao-develop-saber-vote-market]] passed: Approved 10-week development timeline with $62k direct costs and dual audit process
## Key Decisions
| Date | Proposal | Proposer | Category | Outcome |
|------|----------|----------|----------|---------|

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Topics:
- [[internet finance and decision markets]]
## Timeline
- **2023-12-16** — Proposed [[metadao-develop-saber-vote-market]]: Structured $150k consortium deal with Saber, UXD, BlazeStake, and LP Finance; served as accountable party/program manager ($7k compensation)

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name: "Saber"
domain: internet-finance
status: active
founded: null
website: null
key_metrics:
tvl: "$20M (as of Dec 2023)"
governance_token: "SBR"
vote_escrowed_token: "veSBR"
tvl: "$20M (as of 2023-12-16)"
governance_token: "SBR / veSBR"
tracked_by: rio
created: 2026-03-11
---
# Saber
Saber is a Solana-based decentralized exchange (DEX) focused on stablecoin and pegged asset trading. The protocol uses a vote-escrowed governance model (veSBR) where token holders lock SBR to gain governance rights over liquidity gauge emissions.
Saber is a Solana-based automated market maker (AMM) protocol with $20M TVL as of December 2023. The protocol uses vote-escrowed SBR (veSBR) for governance, where token holders lock SBR to receive voting power over liquidity gauge emissions. Saber partnered with MetaDAO to develop a vote market platform, funded by a $150k consortium including Saber itself.
## Timeline
- **2023-12-16** - MetaDAO approved proposal to build vote market for veSBR holders, enabling them to sell governance votes to projects seeking liquidity
- **2023-12-16** — Partnered with MetaDAO on [[metadao-develop-saber-vote-market]]: Contributed to $150k consortium funding vote market development, with c2yptic (Saber team) proposing MetaDAO build the platform instead of internal development
## Relationship to KB
- [[metadao-develop-saber-vote-market]] - governance infrastructure being built for Saber
- Comparable to Curve Finance's gauge voting system on Ethereum
- [[metadao-develop-saber-vote-market]] - governance infrastructure partnership
- Comparable to Curve Finance in vote market economics (used as benchmark for volume projections)

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event_type: proposal
processed_by: rio
processed_date: 2026-03-11
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extraction_model: "anthropic/claude-sonnet-4.5"
extraction_notes: "This is a governance proposal document, not a source containing novel claims about futarchy mechanisms. Extracted as decision_market entity with financial projections and team structure. Created new entities for Saber protocol and c2yptic. No extractable claims - the proposal contains standard vote market mechanics already covered in existing KB claims about governance infrastructure and legitimacy-building."
extraction_notes: "Primary extraction: decision_market entity for passed proposal. Three enrichments to existing futarchy mechanism claims with operational detail. Created new Saber entity. No novel claims—all insights enrich existing mechanism understanding. Proposal demonstrates MetaDAO's business model evolution from launchpad to infrastructure provider, with detailed financial modeling based on Curve/Aura benchmarks."
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## Proposal Details
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## Key Facts
- Saber TVL was $20M as of December 2023
- Curve TVL was $2B with $1.25M in biweekly vote incentives (Dec 2023)
- Curve had $2B TVL with $1.25M biweekly vote incentives ($30M annual run rate) as of proposal date
- Pre-Luna Curve had $20B TVL with $15-20M biweekly vote volume
- Aura had $600M TVL with $900K vote volume in May 2023
- Convex take rate: 7-10%, Votium: ~3%, Hidden Hand: ~10%
- MetaDAO Proposal 0 originally targeted Marinade before pivoting to support their internal solution
- Aura had $600M TVL with $900k biweekly vote volume in May 2023
- Convex charges 7-10% take rate on vote markets
- Votium charges ~3% take rate
- Hidden Hand charges ~10% take rate
- Saber had $20M TVL as of 2023-12-16