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**Limitations.** [[MetaDAOs futarchy implementation shows limited trading volume in uncontested decisions]] -- when proposals are clearly good or clearly bad, few traders participate because the expected profit from trading in a consensus market is near zero. This is a structural feature, not a bug: contested decisions get more participation precisely because they're uncertain, which is when you most need information aggregation. But it does mean uncontested proposals can pass or fail with very thin markets, making the TWAP potentially noisy.
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**Limitations.** [[MetaDAOs futarchy implementation shows limited trading volume in uncontested decisions]] -- when proposals are clearly good or clearly bad, few traders participate because the expected profit from trading in a consensus market is near zero. This is a structural feature, not a bug: contested decisions get more participation precisely because they're uncertain, which is when you most need information aggregation. But it does mean uncontested proposals can pass or fail with very thin markets, making the TWAP potentially noisy.
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### Additional Evidence (extend)
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*Source: [[2024-02-20-futardio-proposal-develop-multi-option-proposals]] | Added: 2026-03-11 | Extractor: anthropic/claude-sonnet-4.5*
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The Autocrat program's binary Pass/Fail structure can be extended to multi-modal proposals with multiple mutually-exclusive outcomes. According to agrippa's 2024-02-20 proposal: 'Architecturally speaking there is no need to hard-limit the number of conditions in a conditional vault / number of outcomes in a proposal.' This suggests the underlying conditional vault architecture is flexible enough to support N-way decisions, not just binary ones. The proposal sought 200 META to implement this extension across four milestones: (1) new multi-modal conditional vault program from scratch, (2) futarch integration, (3) frontend integration, (4) completion. The proposer estimated this would add 12.1% value to the DAO. However, the proposal failed (completed 2024-02-25), and the failure reason was not documented.
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Optimism's futarchy experiment achieved 5,898 total trades from 430 active forecasters (average 13.6 transactions per person) over 21 days, with 88.6% being first-time Optimism governance participants. This suggests futarchy CAN attract substantial engagement when implemented at scale with proper incentives, contradicting the limited-volume pattern observed in MetaDAO. Key differences: Optimism used play money (lower barrier to entry), had institutional backing (Uniswap Foundation co-sponsor), and involved grant selection (clearer stakes) rather than protocol governance decisions. The participation breadth (10 countries, 4 continents, 36 new users/day) suggests the limited-volume finding may be specific to MetaDAO's implementation or use case rather than a structural futarchy limitation.
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Optimism's futarchy experiment achieved 5,898 total trades from 430 active forecasters (average 13.6 transactions per person) over 21 days, with 88.6% being first-time Optimism governance participants. This suggests futarchy CAN attract substantial engagement when implemented at scale with proper incentives, contradicting the limited-volume pattern observed in MetaDAO. Key differences: Optimism used play money (lower barrier to entry), had institutional backing (Uniswap Foundation co-sponsor), and involved grant selection (clearer stakes) rather than protocol governance decisions. The participation breadth (10 countries, 4 continents, 36 new users/day) suggests the limited-volume finding may be specific to MetaDAO's implementation or use case rather than a structural futarchy limitation.
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*Source: [[2024-02-20-futardio-proposal-develop-multi-option-proposals]] | Added: 2026-03-11 | Extractor: anthropic/claude-sonnet-4.5*
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The proposal for multi-modal futarchy failed (status: Failed, completed 2024-02-25), but the proposal document does not explain why. This adds another data point to MetaDAO's early governance challenges. The proposal was technically detailed, came from a credible developer (agrippa, who led Solana Labs' governance-ui development for the past year), and offered what the proposer estimated as 12.1% value add for only 200 META dilution (compared to estimated 1744 META fair value). The failure suggests either: (1) low participation/liquidity made the decision difficult, (2) technical concerns not captured in the proposal text, (3) disagreement with the value proposition, or (4) competing priorities. The proposal included a 3/5 multisig for milestone assessment (Proph3t, DeanMachine, 0xNallok, LegalizeOnionFutures, sapphire), suggesting governance scaffolding was in place.
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title: Multi-modal conditional vaults may not introduce new security risks beyond binary futarchy because conditional markets do not compete for liquidity
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description: Developer assertion that multi-option futarchy vaults reuse existing conditional token primitives without introducing novel attack surfaces, though this remains unaudited and contradicts standard security practice requiring independent review of N-way state spaces.
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confidence: speculative
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## Claim
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Multi-modal conditional vaults may not introduce new security risks beyond binary futarchy because conditional markets do not compete for liquidity.
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## Context
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Futardio's unfunded MetaDAO proposal for multi-option futarchy included a developer assertion that the multi-modal vault architecture would not create new security vulnerabilities. The claim rests on the argument that conditional markets operate independently without liquidity competition, reusing existing conditional token primitives.
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**Important security context**: This assertion is based solely on developer intuition in an unfunded proposal and has never been independently audited. Standard security practice requires dedicated review of N-way state space implementations even when reusing existing primitives, as the composition and interaction patterns can introduce novel attack surfaces. The architecture builds on existing conditional token primitives (Hanson's combinatorial prediction markets, Gnosis conditional tokens) applied to Solana/MetaDAO, but the specific multi-modal implementation was never deployed or security-reviewed.
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## Evidence
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> "Multi-modal conditional vaults do not introduce new security risks beyond binary futarchy because conditional markets do not compete for liquidity."
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**Evidence quality**: Single developer assertion in an unfunded proposal. No security audit, no peer review, no deployment testing. The claim contradicts standard security engineering practice.
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## Implications
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- Multi-option futarchy could be implemented with similar security guarantees to binary futarchy
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- Development complexity might be lower than anticipated
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- Adoption barriers related to security concerns could be reduced
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However, the unverified nature of this claim means:
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- Actual implementation would require independent security audit
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- Novel attack surfaces may exist in the N-way conditional logic
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- The security assumption should not be relied upon without verification
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## Limitations
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- Based on single developer's unaudited assertion
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- Never implemented or tested in production
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- Contradicts standard security practice requiring independent review of multi-way state spaces
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- No formal security analysis or proof
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- Proposal was never funded, so claim was never validated
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- Conditional token composition patterns may introduce unforeseen vulnerabilities
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- The specific Solana/MetaDAO implementation details were never fully specified
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## Related Claims
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- [[multi-option-futarchy-proposals-increase-decision-bandwidth-by-enabling-parallel-evaluation-of-mutually-exclusive-alternatives]]
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- [[multi-modal-futarchy-with-draft-stages-reduces-pork-barrel-spending-by-forcing-alternatives-into-direct-market-competition]]
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- [[futarchy adoption faces friction from token price psychology proposal complexity and liquidity requirements]]
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Extracted from Futardio's unfunded MetaDAO proposal for multi-option futarchy development. The security claim represents developer intuition rather than verified security analysis. Standard security engineering would require independent audit of any N-way conditional vault implementation before deployment.
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claim_id: multi_modal_futarchy_pork_barrel_reduction
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title: Multi-modal futarchy with draft stages reduces pork-barrel spending by forcing alternatives into direct market competition
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description: Theoretical claim that multi-option futarchy proposals with draft stages could reduce wasteful spending by requiring competing alternatives to demonstrate market-validated superiority before implementation.
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Multi-modal futarchy with draft stages reduces pork-barrel spending by forcing alternatives into direct market competition.
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Futardio's unfunded MetaDAO proposal suggested that multi-option futarchy could address pork-barrel spending problems by requiring competing proposals to demonstrate market-validated superiority. This is a second-order political economy speculation derived from a single sentence in the proposal, never tested or implemented.
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> "Multi-modal futarchy with draft stages reduces pork-barrel spending by forcing alternatives into direct market competition."
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- Multi-option futarchy could provide stronger checks against wasteful spending than binary approval voting
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- Draft stages could enable iterative refinement while maintaining competitive pressure
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- Market mechanisms could surface hidden costs or benefits of competing alternatives
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- The claim rests on untested assumptions about trader behavior and information aggregation
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- Pork-barrel dynamics may persist through other mechanisms (vote trading, bundling, etc.)
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- Market liquidity and participation requirements may limit effectiveness
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- [[multi-option-futarchy-proposals-increase-decision-bandwidth-by-enabling-parallel-evaluation-of-mutually-exclusive-alternatives]]
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- [[multi-modal-conditional-vaults-may-not-introduce-new-security-risks-beyond-binary-futarchy-because-conditional-markets-do-not-compete-for-liquidity]]
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Extracted from Futardio's unfunded MetaDAO proposal. This claim represents speculative political economy reasoning about governance incentives rather than tested mechanism design. The limitations section acknowledges this is inherently difficult to verify and was never implemented.
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title: Multi-option futarchy proposals increase decision bandwidth by enabling parallel evaluation of mutually exclusive alternatives
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description: Multi-option futarchy proposals enable parallel market evaluation of mutually exclusive alternatives, increasing decision throughput compared to sequential binary votes, though the scaling is linear or polynomial rather than exponential.
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**Mathematical correction**: The original proposal claimed "exponential" increase in decision bandwidth, but this is mathematically imprecise. The scaling is linear (N options evaluated in one proposal vs N sequential binary votes) or at best polynomial depending on implementation details, not exponential.
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> Corrected understanding: Multi-option proposals increase decision bandwidth by enabling parallel evaluation, but the scaling is linear or polynomial, not exponential.
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The mechanism allows N alternatives to be evaluated in a single proposal cycle rather than requiring N sequential binary votes, reducing time-to-decision and enabling higher governance throughput.
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url: "https://www.futard.io/proposal/J7dWFgSSuMg3BNZBAKYp3AD5D2yuaaLUmyKqvxBZgHht"
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- URL: https://www.futard.io/proposal/J7dWFgSSuMg3BNZBAKYp3AD5D2yuaaLUmyKqvxBZgHht
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- Description: Develop Multi-Option Proposals
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## Summary
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### 🎯 Key Points
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Futardio's unfunded MetaDAO proposal for developing multi-option futarchy functionality. The proposal outlined technical architecture for conditional vaults supporting N-way choices and made several claims about decision bandwidth, security, and governance benefits. The proposal was never funded or implemented.
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The proposal aims to develop multi-modal proposal functionality for the MetaDAO, allowing for multiple mutually-exclusive outcomes in decision-making, and seeks compensation of 200 META distributed across four milestones.
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### 📊 Impact Analysis
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## Key Claims Extracted
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#### 👥 Stakeholder Impact
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Stakeholders will benefit from enhanced decision-making capabilities that allow for the consideration of multiple options, improving governance efficiency.
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#### 📈 Upside Potential
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1. **Decision bandwidth**: Multi-option proposals increase governance throughput by enabling parallel evaluation (note: original claimed "exponential" increase, but actual scaling is linear/polynomial)
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Implementing this feature could increase the DAO's value by approximately 12.1%, enhancing its decision-making bandwidth and innovation in governance.
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2. **Security**: Developer assertion that multi-modal vaults would not introduce new security risks (unaudited, contradicts standard security practice)
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3. **Pork-barrel reduction**: Theoretical claim that draft stages with competing alternatives could reduce wasteful spending
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## Context
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There is a risk that the project may face delays due to other priorities or complications in development, potentially impacting the timeline for delivering the proposed features.
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- Proposal date: 2024-02-20
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This is a proposal to pay me (agrippa) in META to create multi-modal proposal functionality.
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- All claims remain theoretical and unvalidated
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A multi-modal proposal is one with multiple mutually-exclusive outcomes, one of which is Fail and the rest of which are other things.
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For example, you can imagine a proposal to choose the first place prize of the Solana Scribes contest, where there's a conditional market on each applicant![^1] Without multi-modal proposals, a futarchic DAO has basically no mechanism for making choices like this, but multi-modal proposals solve it quite well.
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Architecturally speaking there is no need to hard-limit the number of conditions in a conditional vault / number of outcomes in a proposal.
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I believe even in the medium term it will prove to be a crucial feature that provides a huge amount of value to the DAO[^2], and I believe the futarchic DAO software is currently far and away the DAO's most important asset and worth investing in.
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Unlike other potential expansions of DAO complexity, multi-modal proposals do not particularly introduce any new security / mechanism design considerations. If you can maliciously get through "proposal option 12", you could have also gotten through Pass in a binary proposal because conditional markets do not compete with eachother over liquidity.
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[^1]: You'd probably filter them down at least a little bit, though in principle you don't need to. Also, you could award the 2nd and 3rd place prizes to the 2nd and 3rd highest trading contestants 🤔… kinda neat.
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[^2]: Down the line, I think multi-modal proposals are really quite interesting. For example, for each proposal anyone makes, you could have a mandatory draft stage where before the conditional vault actually goes live anyone can add more alternatives to the same proposal. **I think this would be really effective at cutting out pork** and is the primary mechanism for doing so.
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## About me
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I have been leading development on https://github.com/solana-labs/governance-ui/ (aka the Realms frontend) for Solana Labs for the past year. Aside from smart contract dev, I'm an expert at making web3 frontends performant and developer-ergonomic (hint: it involves using react-query a lot). I started what was probably the very first high-school blockchain club in the world in 2014, with my then-Physics-teacher Jed who now works at Jito. In my undergrad I did research at Cornell's Initiative for Cryptocurrency and Contracts and in 2017 I was invited to a smart contract summit in China because of some Sybil resistance work I was doing at the time (Vitalik was there!).
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I developed the [first conditional tokens vault on Solana](https://github.com/Nimblefoot/precogparty/tree/main/programs/precog) as part of a prediction market reference implementation[^3] (grant-funded by FTX of all people, rest in peace 🙏). This has influenced changes to the existing metadao conditional vault, [referenced here](https://discord.com/channels/1155877543174475859/1174824703513342082/1194351565734170664), which I've been asked to help test and review.
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I met Proph3t in Greece this past December and we spent about 3 hours walking and talking in the pouring rain about the Meta-DAO and futarchy. During our conversation I told him what Hanson tells people: futarchy isn't used because organizations don't actually want it, they'd rather continue to get fat on organizational inefficiencies. But my thinking has changed!
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1. I've now seen how excited talented builders and teams are about implementing futarchy (as opposed to wanting to cling to control)
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2. I've realized just how fun futarchy is and I want it for myself regardless of anything else
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[^3]: I did actually came up with the design myself, but it's been invented multiple times including for example Gnosis conditional vaults on Ethereum.
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### Value
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To me these are the main points of value. I have included my own subjective estimates on how much more the DAO is worth if this feature was fully implemented. (Bare in mind we are "double dipping" here, these improvements include both the functioning of the Meta-DAO itself and the value of the Meta-DAO's best asset, the dao software)
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- Ability to weigh multiple exclusive alternatives at once literally exponentially increases the DAO's decision-making bandwidth in relevant cases (+5%)
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- Multi-modal proposals with a draft stage are the best solution to the deeply real game-theoretic problem of pork barrel (+5%)
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- Multi-modal proposals are cool and elegant. Selection among multiple alternatives is a very challenging problem in voting mechanism design, usually solved poorly (see: elections). Multi-modal futarchic proposals are innovative and exciting not just in the context of futarchy, but all of governance! That's hype (+2%)
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- A really kickass conditional vault implementation is useful for other protocols and this one would be the best. It could collect very modest fees for the DAO each time tokens are deposited into it. (yes, protocols can just fork it, but usually this doesn't happen: see Serum pre explosion, etc) (+0.1%)
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So that is (in my estimation) +12.1% value to the Meta-DAO.
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According to https://dune.com/metadaohogs/themetadao circulating supply is 14,416 META. `14416 * (100 + 12.1)% = 16160`, so this feature set would be worth a dilution of **+1744 META**. I am proposing you pay me much less than that.
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I also believe that I am uniquely positioned to do the work to a very high standard of competence. In particular, I think making the contract work without a limit on # of alternatives requires a deep level of understanding of Anchor and Solana smart contract design, but is necessary in order to future-proof and fully realize the feature's potential.
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I believe in this project and do not want cash. I am asking for 200 META disbursed in 50 META intervals across 4 milestones:
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4. Upon integrating all related features into the frontend
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I think this would take me quite a few weeks to do by myself. I think it's premature to establish any concrete timeline because other priorities may take precedence (for example spending some time refactoring querying and state in the FE). However, if that does happen, I won't allow this project to get stuck in limbo (if nothing else, consider my incentive to subcontract from my network of talented crypto devs).
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- **Proph3t** (65U66fcYuNfqN12vzateJhZ4bgDuxFWN9gMwraeQKByg), who needs no explanation
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- **DeanMachine** (3PKhzE9wuEkGPHHu2sNCvG86xNtDJduAcyBPXpE6cSNt), who I believe is well known and trusted by both the Meta-DAO and the broader DAO community.
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- **0xNallok** (4LpE9Lxqb4jYYh8jA8oDhsGDKPNBNkcoXobbAJTa3pWw), who is supporting in operations and early organization within The Meta-DAO, and who has committed to being available for review of progress and work.
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- **LegalizeOnionFutures** (EyuaQkc2UtC4WveD6JjT37ke6xL2Cxz43jmdCC7QXZQE), who I believe is a sharp and invested member of the Meta-DAO who will hold my work to a high standard.
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- **sapphire** (9eJgizx2jWDLbyK7VMMUekRBKY3q5uVwv5LEXhf1jP3s), who has done impactful security related-work with Realms, informal security review of the Meta-DAO contracts, and is an active member of the Meta-DAO.
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I selected this council because I wanted to keep it lean to reduce overhead but also diverse and representative of the DAO's interests. I will pay each member 2.5 META upon passage as payment for representing the DAO.
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I would be very excited to join this futarchic society as a major techinical contributor. Thanks for your consideration :-)
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## Raw Data
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- Proposal account: `J7dWFgSSuMg3BNZBAKYp3AD5D2yuaaLUmyKqvxBZgHht`
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- Proposal number: 9
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- DAO account: `7J5yieabpMoiN3LrdfJnRjQiXHgi7f47UuMnyMyR78yy`
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- Proposer: `99dZcXhrYgEmHeMKAb9ezPaBqgMdg1RjCGSfHa7BeQEX`
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- Autocrat version: 0.1
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- Completed: 2024-02-25
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- Ended: 2024-02-25
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