rio: extract claims from 2025-02-04-futardio-proposal-should-a-percentage-of-sam-bids-route-to-mnde-stakers #514
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**Limitations.** [[MetaDAOs futarchy implementation shows limited trading volume in uncontested decisions]] -- when proposals are clearly good or clearly bad, few traders participate because the expected profit from trading in a consensus market is near zero. This is a structural feature, not a bug: contested decisions get more participation precisely because they're uncertain, which is when you most need information aggregation. But it does mean uncontested proposals can pass or fail with very thin markets, making the TWAP potentially noisy.
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### Additional Evidence (confirm)
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*Source: [[2025-02-04-futardio-proposal-should-a-percentage-of-sam-bids-route-to-mnde-stakers]] | Added: 2026-03-11 | Extractor: anthropic/claude-sonnet-4.5*
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Marinade's MIP.5 proposal used Autocrat version 0.3 for futarchy governance, with proposal account DnDiyjAcmS3BNmNEJa2ydEbd6DgnddpkyVXJfngdRTzF completing on 2025-02-07. The proposal routed SAM bid percentages to MNDE stakers, representing a treasury/revenue allocation decision made through conditional markets. This demonstrates Autocrat's use beyond simple binary decisions, extending to complex revenue-sharing mechanism design.
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- The subcommittee model introduces trusted roles that could recentralize power over time, undermining the trustless property that makes futarchy valuable
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- Since [[Ooki DAO proved that DAOs without legal wrappers face general partnership liability making entity structure a prerequisite for any futarchy-governed vehicle]], some of this scaffolding is legally required rather than a failure of market mechanisms
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### Additional Evidence (extend)
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*Source: [[2025-02-04-futardio-proposal-should-a-percentage-of-sam-bids-route-to-mnde-stakers]] | Added: 2026-03-11 | Extractor: anthropic/claude-sonnet-4.5*
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Marinade's MIP.5 demonstrates futarchy governance extending beyond treasury operations into protocol mechanism design. The proposal didn't just allocate existing treasury funds but established an ongoing revenue-routing mechanism from SAM bids to stakers. However, implementation still required 'development and implementation' post-approval, indicating futarchy handles the decision while traditional execution follows. This suggests futarchy's scope may be broader than treasury-only operations, covering protocol economics and incentive design, but still relies on off-chain execution infrastructure.
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type: claim
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domain: internet-finance
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description: "Marinade's MIP.5 establishes validator bid revenue sharing with token stakers as governance-approved mechanism"
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confidence: experimental
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source: "Marinade MIP.5 proposal, passed 2025-02-07 via futarchy governance"
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created: 2025-02-11
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# Marinade MIP.5 routes SAM bid percentage to MNDE stakers creating performance-fee model
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Marinade's MIP.5 proposal, passed through futarchy governance on 2025-02-07, establishes a mechanism to route a percentage of SAM (Stake Auction Marketplace) bids to MNDE-Enhanced Stakers who are actively staking to validators with winning bids. This creates a performance fee model where stakers receive revenue from validator auction activity.
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The proposal represents an implementation of revenue sharing between protocol operations (validator auctions) and token holders, mediated through staking requirements. The mechanism ties staker rewards directly to validator selection outcomes, creating alignment between staking behavior and validator performance in the auction marketplace.
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This passed through Marinade's futarchy governance system (proposal account `DnDiyjAcmS3BNmNEJa2ydEbd6DgnddpkyVXJfngdRTzF`, DAO account `9RNQx6cnheD4tzvRCW5Mo1sTo72Vm6PbPj6SFC5aK4fy`) using Autocrat version 0.3, completing on 2025-02-07.
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## Evidence
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- Proposal explicitly states: "This proposal will determine whether to adopt directing of a portion of the SAM bid to MNDE-Enhanced Stakers actively staking to a validator with a winning bid"
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- Proposal passed through futarchy governance, indicating market prediction favored implementation
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- Mechanism detailed in MIP.5 forum post: https://forum.marinade.finance/t/mip-5-sam-bid-routing-to-mnde-stakers/1700
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- Implementation conditional on proposal approval: "If approved, this proposal would sanction the development and implementation of performance fee routing to MNDE-Enhanced Stakers"
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- Source notes potential concerns: "There may be concerns regarding the sustainability of the performance fee model and its impact on the overall profitability of SAM bids, which could deter some investors." However, these are stated as hypothetical risks rather than observed outcomes.
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## Interpretation
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The proposal's passage through futarchy markets suggests traders predicted net positive impact on MNDE token value despite sustainability concerns. This represents a single case study of futarchy applied to protocol mechanism design rather than treasury allocation alone, extending the scope of futarchy governance beyond simple fund distribution.
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Topics:
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- [[MetaDAOs Autocrat program implements futarchy through conditional token markets where proposals create parallel pass and fail universes settled by time-weighted average price over a three-day window.md]]
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- [[futarchy-governed DAOs converge on traditional corporate governance scaffolding for treasury operations because market mechanisms alone cannot provide operational security and legal compliance.md]]
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date: 2025-02-04
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domain: internet-finance
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format: data
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status: unprocessed
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status: processed
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tags: [futardio, metadao, futarchy, solana, governance]
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event_type: proposal
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processed_by: rio
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processed_date: 2025-02-04
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claims_extracted: ["marinade-mip5-routes-sam-bid-percentage-to-mnde-stakers-creating-performance-fee-model.md"]
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enrichments_applied: ["MetaDAOs Autocrat program implements futarchy through conditional token markets where proposals create parallel pass and fail universes settled by time-weighted average price over a three-day window.md", "futarchy-governed DAOs converge on traditional corporate governance scaffolding for treasury operations because market mechanisms alone cannot provide operational security and legal compliance.md"]
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extraction_model: "anthropic/claude-sonnet-4.5"
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extraction_notes: "Single governance proposal from Marinade DAO. Primary extraction is the MIP.5 mechanism itself as a claim about revenue-sharing model design. Two enrichments to existing futarchy claims showing Autocrat usage and scope extension beyond pure treasury operations. No duplicate claims identified - existing knowledge base covers futarchy mechanisms generally but not this specific Marinade implementation."
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## Proposal Details
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- Autocrat version: 0.3
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- Completed: 2025-02-07
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- Ended: 2025-02-07
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## Key Facts
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- Marinade MIP.5 proposal passed 2025-02-07
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- Proposal account: DnDiyjAcmS3BNmNEJa2ydEbd6DgnddpkyVXJfngdRTzF
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- DAO account: 9RNQx6cnheD4tzvRCW5Mo1sTo72Vm6PbPj6SFC5aK4fy
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- Used Autocrat version 0.3
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- Proposal number: 1
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- Forum discussion: https://forum.marinade.finance/t/mip-5-sam-bid-routing-to-mnde-stakers/1700
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