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## Summary & Connections
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**Second attempt to create Futardio — also failed.** After the Memecoin Launchpad proposal (metadao-develop-memecoin-launchpad, Aug 2024) was rejected, this was a second attempt. It too failed.
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**Second attempt to create Futardio — also failed.** After the Memecoin Launchpad proposal ([[metadao-develop-memecoin-launchpad]], Aug 2024) was rejected, this was a second attempt. It too failed.
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**Outcome:** Failed (~2024-11-25).
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## Relationship to KB
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- [[metadao]] — parent entity
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- metadao-develop-memecoin-launchpad — first attempt (Aug 2024, failed)
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- [[metadao-develop-memecoin-launchpad]] — first attempt (Aug 2024, failed)
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- [[metadao-release-launchpad]] — third attempt that finally passed (Feb 2025)
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- [[futarchy can override its own prior decisions when new evidence emerges because conditional markets re-evaluate proposals against current information not historical commitments]] — the market eventually approved what it twice rejected
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## Summary & Connections
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**Proposal 2 — pivot from Marinade to Saber vote market.** After Proposal 0 (metadao-develop-lst-vote-market) passed for a Marinade bribe platform, Marinade started building internally. Proph3t pivoted to Saber, which wanted MetaDAO to build their vote market instead. $150K funded by ecosystem consortium (UXD, BlazeStake, LP Finance, Saber). MetaDAO owns majority of platform. $62K budget for 2-month build.
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**Proposal 2 — pivot from Marinade to Saber vote market.** After Proposal 0 ([[metadao-develop-lst-vote-market]]) passed for a Marinade bribe platform, Marinade started building internally. Proph3t pivoted to Saber, which wanted MetaDAO to build their vote market instead. $150K funded by ecosystem consortium (UXD, BlazeStake, LP Finance, Saber). MetaDAO owns majority of platform. $62K budget for 2-month build.
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**Outcome:** Passed (~2023-12-22).
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## Relationship to KB
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- [[metadao]] — parent entity, early product pivot
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- metadao-develop-lst-vote-market — Proposal 0 that led to this pivot
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- [[metadao-develop-lst-vote-market]] — Proposal 0 that led to this pivot
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**Outcome:** Passed (2024-03-02).
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**Connections:**
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- The sealed-bid auction for multisig compensation is remarkable mechanism design: 10 candidates, sealed bids, lowest 4 selected. Ben H and Nico bid 0 META, joebuild bid 0.2, Dodecahedr0x bid 0.25. This is the Vickrey auction makes honesty the dominant strategy by paying winners the second-highest bid rather than their own applied informally to governance roles.
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- The Dutch auction mechanism (descending price until filled) is the precursor to the more sophisticated Dutch-auction dynamic bonding curves discussed in dutch-auction dynamic bonding curves solve the token launch pricing problem by combining descending price discovery with ascending supply curves
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- The sealed-bid auction for multisig compensation is remarkable mechanism design: 10 candidates, sealed bids, lowest 4 selected. Ben H and Nico bid 0 META, joebuild bid 0.2, Dodecahedr0x bid 0.25. This is [[the Vickrey auction makes honesty the dominant strategy by paying winners the second-highest bid rather than their own]] applied informally to governance roles.
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- The Dutch auction mechanism (descending price until filled) is the precursor to the more sophisticated Dutch-auction dynamic bonding curves discussed in [[dutch-auction dynamic bonding curves solve the token launch pricing problem by combining descending price discovery with ascending supply curves]]
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- "There is currently strong demand for META, with an oversubscribed raise, proposals from notable parties attempting to purchase META at below market price, and a well-known figure DCAing into META" — context: this is during the Feb-Mar 2024 period when Ben Hawkins and Pantera were also trying to buy META
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- Moving all liquidity to the 1% fee pool after the auction addresses the [[futarchy adoption faces friction from token price psychology proposal complexity and liquidity requirements]] — protocol-owned liquidity reduces the friction
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## Relationship to KB
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- [[metadao]] — parent entity, liquidity bootstrapping
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- [[futarchy adoption faces friction from token price psychology proposal complexity and liquidity requirements]] — addresses liquidity friction
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- dutch-auction dynamic bonding curves solve the token launch pricing problem by combining descending price discovery with ascending supply curves — early manual implementation of Dutch auction concept
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- [[dutch-auction dynamic bonding curves solve the token launch pricing problem by combining descending price discovery with ascending supply curves]] — early manual implementation of Dutch auction concept
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**Outcome:** Passed (~2025-08-10).
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**Connections:**
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- This was FORCED by the treasury exhaustion from metadao-otc-trade-theia-3 — "this sale will exhaust the DAO treasury of META holdings. It is therefore critical that we plan for the eventual token migration." The Theia deal explicitly flagged this would happen.
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- This was FORCED by the treasury exhaustion from [[metadao-otc-trade-theia-3]] — "this sale will exhaust the DAO treasury of META holdings. It is therefore critical that we plan for the eventual token migration." The Theia deal explicitly flagged this would happen.
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- Validates [[futarchy-daos-require-mintable-governance-tokens-because-fixed-supply-treasuries-exhaust-without-issuance-authority-forcing-disruptive-token-architecture-migrations]] — MetaDAO lived through exactly this failure mode
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- The [[metadao-burn-993-percent-meta]] (Proposal 11) started the path: burn 99.3% → thin treasury → OTC deals deplete remainder → forced migration to mintable token
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- "Futarchy is market-driven decision making. To stay true to that principle, it also requires market-driven issuance" — Proph3t's framing makes mintability a philosophical commitment, not just a practical fix
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## Relationship to KB
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- [[metadao]] — parent entity, token architecture change
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- metadao-otc-trade-theia-3 — treasury exhaustion that forced this migration
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- [[metadao-otc-trade-theia-3]] — treasury exhaustion that forced this migration
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- [[metadao-burn-993-percent-meta]] — started the path to treasury depletion
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- [[futarchy-daos-require-mintable-governance-tokens-because-fixed-supply-treasuries-exhaust-without-issuance-authority-forcing-disruptive-token-architecture-migrations]] — MetaDAO is the canonical case
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**Outcome:** Passed (~2025-03-01). Led directly to the Avici, Umbra, Solomon, OmniPair, and subsequent launches.
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**Connections:**
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- This is the successor to the twice-rejected memecoin launchpad idea (metadao-develop-memecoin-launchpad failed Aug 2024, [[metadao-create-futardio]] failed Nov 2024). The market approved the infrastructure version but not the speculative version.
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- This is the successor to the twice-rejected memecoin launchpad idea ([[metadao-develop-memecoin-launchpad]] failed Aug 2024, [[metadao-create-futardio]] failed Nov 2024). The market approved the infrastructure version but not the speculative version.
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- "If the team walks away on day #1, anyone would be able to raise a proposal to the DAO to liquidate the treasury and return all money to the funders. This is also true on day #30, day #365, and day #1083." — this is the thesis behind [[futarchy-governed liquidation is the enforcement mechanism that makes unruggable ICOs credible because investors can force full treasury return when teams materially misrepresent]]
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- The "permissioned by us at start" → "transition to permissionless" is what became the MetaDAO (curated) vs futard.io (permissionless) two-tier system
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- "Bag bias is real, and in this system it works for you as a founder" — Proph3t's insight on community-from-day-one as a feature, not a compromise
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- [[metadao]] — parent entity, launchpad creation
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- [[MetaDAO is the futarchy launchpad on Solana where projects raise capital through unruggable ICOs governed by conditional markets creating the first platform for ownership coins at scale]] — this proposal is the origin
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- [[futarchy-governed liquidation is the enforcement mechanism that makes unruggable ICOs credible because investors can force full treasury return when teams materially misrepresent]] — the liquidation mechanism described here
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- metadao-develop-memecoin-launchpad — earlier rejected version of this idea
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- [[metadao-develop-memecoin-launchpad]] — earlier rejected version of this idea
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- [[futarchy-governed permissionless launches require brand separation to manage reputational liability because failed projects on a curated platform damage the platforms credibility]] — "permissioned at start, permissionless later"
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type: decision
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entity_type: decision_market
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name: "MetaDAO: VC Discount Rejection"
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name: "MetaDAO: Engage in $6M OTC with DBA and Variant?"
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domain: internet-finance
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status: rejected
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status: failed
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parent_entity: "[[metadao]]"
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platform: metadao
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proposal_date: 2026-03
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resolution_date: 2026-03
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proposer: "Proph3t"
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proposal_url: "https://www.metadao.fi/projects/metadao/proposal/HmAuSUjYzuEdkGvBe19JxK3pUYKNf4JPCkWY2nCFNYNB"
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proposal_date: 2025-10-10
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resolution_date: 2025-10-13
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category: treasury
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summary: "$6M OTC deal offering VCs 30% META discount rejected via futarchy; 16% price surge followed"
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summary: "META-032 — $6M OTC to DBA and Variant at $4.08/META (~35% discount to $6.27 spot). Would mint 1.47M new META tokens. $879K volume. Decisively rejected: pass TWAP $2.24 vs fail TWAP $6.30. 16% META price surge on rejection."
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key_metrics:
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proposal_number: 32
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proposal_account: "HmAuSUjYzuEdkGvBe19JxK3pUYKNf4JPCkWY2nCFNYNB"
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offer_amount: "$6,000,000 USDC"
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meta_to_mint: "1,470,768 META"
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price_per_meta: "$4.0795"
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implied_mcap: "~$85M"
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spot_price: "$6.27"
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discount_to_spot: "~35%"
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volume: "$879,770"
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pass_price: "$2.2380 (-64.31%)"
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fail_price: "$6.3022 (+0.52%)"
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tags: [metadao, otc, dba, variant, vc-discount, rejected, manipulation-resistance]
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tracked_by: rio
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created: 2026-03-18
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last_updated: 2026-03-24
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# MetaDAO VC Discount Rejection
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# MetaDAO: Engage in $6M OTC with DBA and Variant?
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## Proposal
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A $6M OTC deal that would have offered VC firms a 30% discount on META tokens.
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## Summary & Connections
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## Outcome
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- **Result:** Rejected via futarchy governance
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- **Market reaction:** 16% surge in META price following rejection
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- **Significance:** Demonstrates futarchy working as designed to prevent value extraction by insiders
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**META-032 — the definitive VC discount rejection.** $6M OTC to DBA and Variant at $4.08/META (~35% discount to $6.27 spot). Would mint 1,470,768 new META. The market crushed it: pass price collapsed to $2.24 (-64%), fail price held at $6.30 (+0.5%). $879K volume — the most decisive rejection in MetaDAO's history. META surged 16% after rejection.
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## Analysis
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This decision provides strong empirical evidence for futarchy's ability to prevent minority exploitation. The market literally priced in "we rejected the extractive deal" as positive, with a 16% price surge following the rejection. This shows that:
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**Outcome:** Failed (Oct 2025). Pass TWAP: $2.2380. Fail TWAP: $6.3022.
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1. Smaller participants successfully blocked a deal that would have benefited large holders at their expense
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2. The conditional market mechanism made the extractive deal unprofitable to pursue
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3. The community recognized and rejected value extraction through the futarchy process
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**Connections:**
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- **The strongest empirical evidence for futarchy anti-extraction.** The pass price (-64%) tells you exactly how the market valued dilution at discount: devastating. The fail price (+0.5%) says "we're fine without this deal." The 66-point spread is the market screaming.
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- This is the capstone of the OTC pricing sequence: Ben Hawkins at $33/META rejected ([[metadao-otc-trade-ben-hawkins]]), Pantera at ≤$100 rejected ([[metadao-otc-trade-pantera-capital]]), Theia at -12.7% rejected ([[metadao-otc-trade-theia-1]]) — but Theia at +14% premium passed ([[metadao-otc-trade-theia-2]]), Theia at +38% premium passed ([[metadao-otc-trade-theia-3]]). **The market consistently, across 2 years and 7 deals, accepts premium capital and rejects discount capital.**
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- "We don't believe in locking up non-team supply" — fully unlocked tokens at a 35% discount. This is the most extractive deal structure proposed on MetaDAO. The market responded accordingly.
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- DBA (Digital Business Analytics?) and Variant (Jesse Walden's fund) are institutional names — the market rejected institutional capital from named VCs, consistent with the Pantera rejection pattern. Brand name does not override unfavorable terms.
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- Proph3t proposed this himself — the market rejected the co-founder's own deal, proving futarchy's independence from proposer identity. The mechanism treats all capital equally.
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- The 5/6 multisig (Kollan, Proph3t, 2 DBA, 2 Variant) shows the same operational scaffolding pattern as earlier OTC deals
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- [[decision markets make majority theft unprofitable through conditional token arbitrage]] — this is now the primary evidence case, surpassing the Ben Hawkins example
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This was also a CONTESTED decision with meaningful engagement, providing counter-evidence to the pattern documented in [[MetaDAOs futarchy implementation shows limited trading volume in uncontested decisions]] — when stakes are high enough, participation follows.
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## Related
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- [[decision markets make majority theft unprofitable through conditional token arbitrage]]
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- [[futarchy-governed permissionless launches require brand separation to manage reputational liability because failed projects on a curated platform damage the platforms credibility]] — the VC discount rejection occurred on the curated MetaDAO platform, not futard.io
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## Full Proposal Text
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If passed, this proposal would sell $6m of META to DBA and Variant at $4.0795 per META, equivalent to a ~$85MM market cap.
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### Motivation
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MetaDAO currently has ~$1.8m in cash, which equates to ~24 months of runway.
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We have a pretty small team right now - it's me and Kollan, our founding engineer, a part-time designer, and a twitter intern.
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We like keeping our team lean - many times, bigger teams actually go slower than small teams - but we think we could go faster if we expanded (hired full-time designer + another 1-2 engineer(s)) and it'd also be nice to have more runway.
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### Logistics
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If passed, this proposal would mint 1,470,768 META to this 5/6 multisig (6mYWxA7Jrvxqbj2yrcueupuQAgT1WsFwyLTZB382rdFc), containing Kollan and Proph3t from MetaDAO, Michael and Jon Charbonneau from DBA, and two addresses from Jesse Walden at Variant.
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DBA and Variant agree to each send 3,000,000 USDC to that multisig, which would then send them each 735,384 META and then the USDC to MetaDAO's treasury.
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Tokens would be fully unlocked - we don't believe in locking up non-team supply.
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If for some reason one or both parties don't send their end, we would attempt to burn the relevant tokens.
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## Market Data
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| Metric | Value |
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| Total Volume | $879,770 |
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| Status | Failed |
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| Pass Price | $2.2380 (-64.31% vs spot) |
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| Spot Price | $6.2698 |
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| Fail Price | $6.3022 (+0.52% vs spot) |
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| Created | 2025-10-10 |
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| Resolved | ~2025-10-13 |
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## Raw Data
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- Proposal account: `HmAuSUjYzuEdkGvBe19JxK3pUYKNf4JPCkWY2nCFNYNB`
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- Proposal number: META-032
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- Multisig: `6mYWxA7Jrvxqbj2yrcueupuQAgT1WsFwyLTZB382rdFc` (5/6)
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- Multisig members: Kollan, Proph3t (MetaDAO), Michael Charbonneau, Jon Charbonneau (DBA), 2 addresses from Jesse Walden (Variant)
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- META to mint: 1,470,768
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- Price per META: $4.0795
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- Post-migration URL format (metadao.fi/projects/)
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## Relationship to KB
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- [[metadao]] — parent entity, most decisive proposal rejection
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- [[decision markets make majority theft unprofitable through conditional token arbitrage]] — the strongest empirical evidence: pass price -64%, fail price +0.5%, 66-point spread
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- [[metadao-otc-trade-ben-hawkins]] — earlier discount rejection (smaller scale)
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- [[metadao-otc-trade-pantera-capital]] — earlier institutional rejection
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- [[metadao-otc-trade-theia-1]] — earlier discount rejection (Theia later succeeded at premium)
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- [[metadao-otc-trade-theia-2]] — Theia accepted at +14% premium (contrast)
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- [[metadao-otc-trade-theia-3]] — Theia accepted at +38% premium (contrast)
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